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Minutes
of Meeting
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Southern
Enforcement
Officer
Group
Hosted
by Chichester District Council
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Imber
Court - 02 Dec 05
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Time |
Minute |
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Venue:
Metropolitan
Police Sports and Social Club, Imber Court, East Molesley,
Surrey, KT8 0BT |
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10:00
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WELCOME
ADDRESS |
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Jim
Lynn (Co-Chair) opened the meeting, and in doing so, apologised
for the delayed start time caused by localised traffic problems.
Jim expressed his gratitude to Chichester District Council
for sponsoring the event and thanked Shona Archer, and her
colleagues, for all their enthusiasm and support in making
the day possible. Jim informed the Group that St Albans City
Council have agreed to sponsor the meeting to be held at the
Metropolitan Police Sports & Social Club, Bushey, Herts on
10 March 2006.
Any Authority prepared to assist the Group by hosting/sponsoring
future meeting(s) are asked to urgently contact Jim ( as of
January, 2006 contactable at The London Borough of Hillingdon
–see below ) or the Web Master, Paul Corbett, via www.seog.e-planning.co.uk.
Jim announced that at the end of December he will be leaving
Surrey Heath Borough Council in order to join Hillingdon.
In light of this the need of volunteers to assist in the running
of the Group will increase as he is unlikely to be in a position
to devote so much time to the Group and organising subsequent
meetings.
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OPENING
ADDRESS given by STEVE CARVELL –
Head of Development and Building Control, Chichester District
Council.
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Mr.
Carvell formally welcomed everyone to the meeting acknowledging
the work that goes into the preparation and co-ordinating
of such an event. Nevertheless, Steve felt that such involvement,
as that of Shona and her staff, had proved most beneficial
in terms of team building/organisational experience.
Steve spoke of Chichester as an area offering a high quality
built environment, the Local Planning Authority were accordingly
constrained when considering applications for future development
imposing appropriate safeguards/controls. He spoke about the
prospect of the National Park becoming a Local Authority and
the impact this is likely to have in terms of planning control.
He also discussed unauthorised development, customer expectations
and the need for reviewing approaches to the work of the Council.
Steve expressed his belief that the day ahead would prove
to be both informative and enjoyable for all concerned.
Jim thanked Mr. Carvell for taking the time from his busy
schedule in order to attend the meeting and for his most able
address.
Jim then spoke briefly upon the subject of COVERT observations/enquiries,
as controlled under the provisions of R.I.P.A. As a consequence
of concerns voiced by certain members of the Group, and in
an attempt to clarify matters raised, he had made direct contact
with a member of staff at the Home Office. The informal opinion
given was as follows, that unless covert enquiries are being
carried out in furtherance of the prevention, detection of
crime or public disorder/safety, no such enquiries may be
undertaken.
(See notes of the presentations given by Linda Russell and
Tan Ikram set out below ) |
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10.30
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LINDA
RUSSELL – (Solicitor) – ‘Enforcement Notices and their
Content.’ '
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Linda began her presentation with a brief commentary on covert
observations/enquiries and agreed that conflicting advice
has been given on the subject. Covert observations can be
carried out on the grounds of National Interest and/or the
prevention, detection of crime and disorder. This may also
impact upon the duties of Environmental Health Officers with
regard to investigations of food outlets/hygiene under grounds
of public interest/ disorder.
Linda explained that initial enquiries into an alleged breach
of planning control did not constitute a criminal offence.
However, following the issue of an Enforcement Notice, failure
to comply with the requirements thereof – dependent upon the
facts of an individual case- an on-going investigation could
be considered to fall within the terms of the Act i.e. prevention/detection
of crime, necessitating the need for prior R.I.P.A. authorisation
to be issued.
Linda then spoke about the law and guidance regarding Enforcement
Notices and the purpose of taking formal Enforcement action.
She discussed the need for obtaining precise details of land
uses and ownership, the requisition of information and the
powers associated with same – including the service of a Planning
Contravention Notice.
Linda detailed the content of an Enforcement notice, the need
to correctly identify the breach of control, reasons for expediency
- relevant planning policies as approved in the Development
Plan. She explained that it was best not to put all the policies
in the actual notice but to include them as an annex or make
reference to them in the document, detailing where the policies
can be accessed. Whenever a notice is issued, an explanatory
note must be attached, Linda explained that this was a requirement
introduced by recent legislation . The note should contain
a copy of the sections, right of appeal, fee(s), a list of
names and addresses to whom a copy of the enforcement notice
has been sent etc. Linda also stressed that ALL interested
parties must receive a copy of the notice e.g. owner, occupier,
mortgagee etc.
Members of the audience discussed issues relating to withdrawal
of enforcement notices, the keeping of a public register and
using Council websites to publish the list.
Aerial photography and authorisation from RIPA was also discussed
and it was decided that as a general rule aerial photography
would not need RIPA authorisation, as the activity would be
unlikely to record private information about an individual,
family or the home.
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Notes/presentations associated with this topic maybe available
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Jim Lynn thanked Linda for her presentation. ( followed by
informal discussion ) |
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REFESHMENTS |
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12.15
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TAN
IKRAM – (Solicitor/Advocate and Deputy District Judge) –
‘An ABC Guide on Hearsay and Bad Character in the Magistrates
Court.’
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In response to an invitation from the Chair, Tan began his
presentation by again referring to the matter of covert
observations/enquiries as controlled under R.I.P.A. He explained
that R.I.P.A. authorisation must be sought when undertaking
enquiries as prescribed by the legislation. He stated that
after due consideration, he felt that no distinction should
be drawn between residential or non-residential premises
in that information relating to a person(s) private life
was likely to be gained.
Tan informed the group that there had been various reforms
in the legal system over the past year. One of these was
access to information about previous convictions. In particular,
if a previous conviction is of the type being heard in the
court or whereby an inference that a defendant or witness
may have a propensity not to tell the truth, the court is
now entitled to listen to detail of previous convictions.
In reality, it would be unlikely that there would be a previous
planning conviction. However, if there was a previous fraud/deception
conviction, the inference may be drawn that the defendant
had a propensity not tell the truth and could therefore
be a material consideration in court proceedings. Tan also
made it clear that similarly, in appropriate circumstances,
previous criminal history of a witness could be brought
to the attention of the court.
Tan discussed the importance of recording the primary disclosure
schedule. Even if any investigative work produces a nil
result, this should be recorded and filed. If there was
no primary disclosure material, bad character information
cannot be relied upon.
Tan informed the group about other reforms including the
fact that courts now have the discretion to include ‘hearsay’
evidence and therefore, memory refreshing documents ( pocket
book entries, statements etc ) may readily be used.
Tan discussed various topics with the audience including
the importance of recording detail, including verbal abuse,
in reports/statements and the advantages gained by Local
Authorities in maintaining a central database recording
convictions for breaches of planning control. (Such a data
base exists for offences against Advertisement control)
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Notes/presentations associated with this topic maybe available
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Jim expressed sincere thanks to Tan for once again speaking
to the Group and for giving both an informative and highly
entertaining presentation. Jim wished the audience to know
that, in order for Tan to fulfil his commitment to appear
at the meeting, he had been forced to make significant alterations
to his diary culminating in his immediate departure to appear
later in the day at Leeds Crown Court.
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LUNCH |
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2:00
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DAVID
WHIPPS – (Solicitor) – ‘Trees and the Law’ |
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David
began his presentation by informing the group that he had
several years of experience as a Solicitor engaged in Town
Planning work - having represented both Local Authorities
and private individuals. David discussed the importance
of trees to the environment and talked about the difficulties
which may arise when deciding upon the ownership of tree(s).
For example if a tree straddles a boundary, it may well
involve a matter of joint ownership with the resultant need
to notify ALL interested parties. He also spoke about ‘the
problem tree’, for example the encroachment of roots into
neighbouring properties, the ‘hazardous tree’ whereby circumstances
of danger to the public or third party property is acknowledged.
David talked about Tree Preservation Orders (TPO), the making
of the orders, their effect, exemptions to and penalties
that may be incurred for undertaking unauthorised works.
He added that every tree in a conservation area is subject
to control i.e. requiring six(6) weeks prior notice to the
Local Planning Authority of the intention to carry out works
to the tree(s). Finally, David spoke on the subject of high
hedges in relation to the Anti Social Behaviour Act 2003
and asked the audience of any practical examples of involvement
in the new procedure.
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Notes/presentations associated with this topic maybe available
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Jim thanked David for giving an informative and interesting
presentation.
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In direct response to enquiries received, Jim discussed the
option of changing the day of the meeting. As a consequence,
a motion was voted upon by those delegates present and resulted
in an overwhelming agreement to continue convening Group meetings
on a Friday.
Jim then made special mention of Paul Corbett who undertakes
the duties of Web Master for the S.E.O.G web site. Jim praised
Paul for all his effort and dedication in providing a web
site of such high quality– a unanimous round of applause was
given by the delegates in recognition of both the hard work
and continued enthusiasm shown by Paul.
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REFRESHMENTS |
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3:15
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JENIFER
TIMOTHY – (Assistant Conservation Officer – Chichester District
Council) –
‘Shop front Replacements in a Historic Setting.’ |
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Jenifer gave an excellent presentation relating to the impact
of shop front development within Chichester town centre.
She explained that it was essential for shop and business
owners/proprietors to be made aware of design criteria considered
appropriate for inner town locations. This requirement was
fundamental when dealing with premises situated within an
area of recognised historical or architectural importance.
Jenifer spoke at length about the various facets of a typical
historic shop front, highlighting features of design detail/colour.
She went onto discuss the type of problems that may arise
when dealing with issues, such as, various forms of advertisement
signage, installation and positioning of alarms/security
blinds/cameras etc. Jenifer concluded her lecture by highlighting
the difficulties that arise when retailers wish to use ‘corporate
colours’ in order to readily identify their premises. In
such circumstances it is preferable to pursue a reasoned
approach prior to the works taking place
Jim
thanked Jenny for attending.
Jim thanked Jenifer for a most informative presentation,
notes of which will be attached to the minutes.
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Notes/presentations associated with this topic maybe available
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4:30
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CLOSE
OF MEETING
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Jim
Lynn thanked the speakers who had kindly given of their time
in order to make the day such a success and to all the delegates
for attending.
Jim made a plea encouraging delegates to use the SEOG website
which can be accessed on either www.seog.co.uk or www.seog.e-planning.co.uk
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NEXT MEETING Friday 10 March 2006
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VENUE:
Police
Sports Centre Bushey, Herts
Hosted
by
St.Albans
District Council
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Dated: 14 December 2005
| Speakers
materials made available to SEOG Members |
Imber
Court - 02 Dec 05
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Slides
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Handouts
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readers should note that all materials kindly made available
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Linda
Russell
(Solicitor) |
- "Enforcement
Notices and their Content "
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Tan
Ikram
(Solicitor/Advocate
and Deputy District Judge) |
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"‘An
ABC Guide on Hearsay and Bad Character in the Magistrates
Court" |
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Profile
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David
Whipps
(Solicitor) |
- "Trees
and the Law."
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Awaiting
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Jenifer
Timothy
(Assistant
Conservation Officer – Chichester District Council) |
- "Shop
front Replacements in a Historic Setting" |
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