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Minutes
of Meeting
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Southern
Enforcement
Officer
Group
Hosted
by Hertfordshire County Council
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Bushey
- 11 Mar 04
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10:00
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WELCOME
ADDRESS |
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Jim
Lynn opened the meeting by apologising for the slightly delayed
start due to a technical glitch but was pleased to see so
many attendees. He expressed how important it was to receive
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COUNCILLOR HAMMOND
Councillor Hammond welcomed everyone to the meeting and explained
that he worked for the Hertfordshire County Council and was
the Chairman of the London Control Committee. He confessed
that before he received his invitation to the meeting he had
not heard of the Group. He went on to say that the Group had
been going for 15 years incorporating a total of 45 meetings
and that Jim Lynn had been involved in 40 of them. Councillor
Hammond praised Jim's commitment to the Group and thanked
him on behalf of the County. The audience showed their agreement
with spontaneous applause. Councillor Hammond was also pleased
to see his colleagues from County in attendance.
Councillor Hammond explained that Hertfordshire, the home
of the rural quarries, had a continuous problem with dust,
litter and noise due to the traffic activity in the areas
of the gravel belt.
Councillor Hammond spoke of how Planning Control is a very
important aspect of the planning process. He was very proud
of the County's Green Belt and would defend it seriously.
Unauthorised encampments on Green Belt land accounted for
up to 50% of all travelling matters and Councillor Hammond
stressed the importance of having an action plan in order
to deal with unwarranted invasions.
Councillor Hammond thanked the Group for including Hertfordshire
as part of the Southern region and wished the Group continued
success. He also reminded everyone that it was Red Nose Day
and encouraged contributions to the cause
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Minutes
of the previous meeting were then noted and Jim advised
that these were available on the group web-site [>>].
Hard copies are also available upon request. Jim paid tribute
to Tan Ikram (Barrister-at-Law) who gave an excellent presentation
at the last meeting. He was pleased to announce that Tan
had agreed to speak at a future meeting sometime toward
the end of the year.
Jim then announced that Chelmsford Council had agreed to
sponsor the next meeting (15 July 2005) and that the venue
would be the Metropolitan Police Club, Chigwell. Jim then
made a plea for Authorities to assist as sponsors/hosts
willing for future meetings, especially the one proposed
for the end of the year. Jim explained that the Group is
prepared to organise the venue and catering. He urged any
'volunteers' to contact him as soon as possible as preparation
for meetings require a 6-9 month run in.
Jim
then paid tribute to Paul Corbett for his magnificent work
as web-master of the Group's web-site. Paul has been known
to work at weekends to maintain the site and Jim had great
admiration for his efforts. There is no charge to view the
site and there is also a Group Notice Board. This Notice
Board would be a good opportunity to share ideas and pose
questions to the Group. Jim asked the audience to make use
of this important tool. The Group's web site can be found
at www.seog.co.uk or www.seog.e-planning.co.uk
Jim talked briefly about an injunction that at the time
of the meeting was being applied for on behalf of Woking
District Council. The application related to an unauthorised
encampment of Gypsies/travellers. In the course of their
considerations, Officers at Woking had been required to
determine whether or not a second Enforcement Notice would
have to be served, the first such notice having been complied
with prior to the re-sale of the land in question. Jim had
been asked to inform delegates of the decision in PROSSER
v SHARP 1985 ( JPL 717 DC ) which makes it clear that there
is no need for planning authorities to consider issuing
a further Enforcement Notice is not required in such cases
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10.30
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LESLEY
DOLAN (Legal Services Practice Manager & Council's Data
Protection Officer, Surrey Heath BC) - An overview of the
Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Lesley
gave an informative overview of the Freedom of Information
Act and how it would affect the work place. Her presentation
began with a summary of the Act, followed by an explanation
of the New Rights of Access. Lesley explained that the public
would have no obligation to say why they required the information
and it was not limited to the residents in the authority.
Local Authorities could charge for some requests but there
were certain regulations regarding this. Lesley detailed
exemptions and the Codes of Practice relevant to the Act.
At the conclusion of her presentation Lesley responded to
various questions including how obvious an individual's
request for information under the Act should be. If it was
not obvious to the officer, clarification should be sought.
Confidentiality was also discussed, Lesley advised that
a clear record be made in order to confirm that a report/complaint
has been made in confidence. In addition, advice was given
not to provide a document under the requirements of F o
I Act, in which confidential data can be seen to have been
blanked out but in fact to produce a further document in
which only non-confidential/ relevant information is given.
Notes of Lesley's presentation are attached to the minutes.
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REFESHMENTS |
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11:30
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DANIEL
FARRAND (Solicitor with Mills and Reeves specialising in
Planning and Environmental Law, with experience of enforcing
against unauthorised gypsy site) - Gypsies and the Planning
System.
Daniel (who came highly recommended by Tom Wenbourne of
Dartford Council) gave a detailed presentation on unauthorised
occupation of land. He explained it is easier to remove
gypsies from council, rather than privately owned, land
by use of the increased powers granted under the Criminal
Justice and Public Order Act, 1994. However, the problems
associated with unauthorised occupation of land have highlighted
the need of both permanent and transit sites for travellers.
In addition, local authorities need to consider the requirements
imposed by The Human Rights Act when deciding upon action
in order to deal with sites occupied by gypsies/travellers
and aim to strike the right balance between the public need
and the rights of those individuals involved.
Daniel
stressed that it is important to get the authority's policy
right at the very beginning and to improve communication
council-wide. The first indication of the unauthorised occupation
of land may not necessarily come via Planning, therefore
wider policies would make communication more efficient.
Local Authorities need to engage with other agencies, such
as, the Police, residents and the gypsy community. This
will demonstrate that Planning Authorities have considered
the needs of gypsies, thereby providing a far stronger case
when seeking intervention by the court(s).
Daniel
discussed the various stages of enforcement including needs
assessments, building a team and access needs of the site
as a whole. In addition, he mentioned the 'pros and cons'
of issuing enforcement notices and the various methods for
enforcement.
Members
of the Group commented upon the frustration that is experienced
by Local Authority officers when the High Court continually
postpone proceedings for contempt of an injunction.
Daniel
recommended that 'needs assessments' should be carried out
right throughout the occupation of the land.
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Sharon
Threlfall ( Hertfordshire County Council ) made a plea on
behalf of the organisers of Red Nose Day, all donations
gratefully received. There would also be a sweepstake during
lunchtime from which half the proceeds would make up the
prize for the winning individual and the remainder to be
donated the Appeal
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1:00
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LUNCH |
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2:00
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DANIEL
FARRAND cont.
Daniel continued with his presentation discussing the advantages
and disadvantages of issuing injunctions, 'stop' notices and
Compulsory Purchase Orders (CPOs). He considered the aftermath
of any action, e.g. clearing the site, placing the gypsies/travellers
on the homelessness list. Daniel finished his presentation
by discussing recent developments, including consideration
of Human Rights on both sides i.e. the settled and itinerant
communities. Notes of
Daniel's presentation are attached to the minutes.[>>]
Jim was pleased to inform the Group that Daniel had agreed,
in principle, to make a further presentation to the group
at a later date. |
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REFRESHMENTS |
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Jim praised Sharon Threlfall ( Herts. C.C. ) for her hard
work and enthusiasm in both assisting with the organising
the meeting and the Red Nose Appeal. It was announced that
£128.54 was raised at the meeting. The registration fees collected
had paid all expenses, the residue of the monies would be
given toward an appeal for the families of two local fire
fighters who had recently died in the line of duty.
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BRIAN
HYAMS AND JOHN SEDDON (Environment Agency) - Hazardous Waste
Brian and John gave a joint presentation on the subject
of hazardous waste, it was explained that any substance
that may be considered liable to cause harm to the public
could come within this classification. Brian informed the
group that the illegal deposit of waste was on the increase,
whilst the number of landfill sites had been reduced considerably.
Local Authorities should input details of their own waste
incidents onto the 'Fly-capture database'. Brian discussed
the Hazardous Waste Regulations, including the proposed
regulatory changes and the European Waste Catalogue. He
explained that each waste type had a 6-digit number in the
catalogue.
As there are only 8/9 Environment Agency officers to monitor
waste, within the Greater London area, Brian said that Local
Authorities may be responsible for monitoring waste within
their own areas in the near future. Brian and John stressed
the importance of educating the public about hazardous waste
and the need for Local Authorities to ensure that they have
a robust waste management strategy in place.
Brian and John advised that there were various useful web-sites
on the subject of waste, details of which will be annexed
to the minutes along with the presentation notes.[>>]
The Environment Agency contact number is 0845 807060 and
Brian's e-mail is brian.hyams@environment-agency.gov.uk
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4:15
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CLOSE
OF MEETING
Jim Lynn thanked the speakers who had kindly given of their
time and to all the delegates for attending the meeting.
He apologised that due to time constraints Bob Moon was
unable to give his talk on County Matters but the notes
will be posted to the web-site.[>>]
Jim reminded everyone that the CPD certificates had been
produced and were ready for collection.
A flyer was distributed to all about a case where an argument
on whether two separate breaches of enforcement notice under
section 179(5) can be prosecuted on the same occasion. This
was written by Tan Ikram and can also be found annexed to
the minutes on the web-site.
NEXT MEETING FRIDAY 15TH JULY 2005 - VENUE: METROPOLITAN
POLICE HQ, CHIGWELL - SPONSORED BY CHELMSFORD BOROUGH COUNCIL.
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Dated: 14 March 2005
| Speakers
materials made available to SEOG Members |
Bushey
- 11 Mar 05
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| Speaker |
Subject |
Slides
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Handouts
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Lesley
Dolan
(Legal
Services Practice Manager & Council's Data Protection Officer,
Surrey Heath B. C) |
- "An
over view of the Freedom of Information Act, 2000"
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Daniel
Farrand
(Solicitor
with Mills & Reeve) |
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"Gypsies
and the Planning System" |
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Bob
Moon
(Enforcement
Team Leader, Hertfordshire C.C) |
- "County
Matters"
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Brian
Hyams & John Seddon
(Environment Agency) |
- "Hazardous
& Farmers Waste - An Overview" |
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