Posted 6 December 2004
 
Minutes of Meeting
Southern Enforcement Officer Group
Hosted by Slough Borough Council
Windsor - York Club
- 26 Nov 04
Time Minute
10:30
WELCOME ADDRESS
JIM LYNN opened the meeting by apologising for the late start due to traffic problems following an earlier accident in the Windsor area. On behalf of the group he thanked Slough Borough Council for sponsoring the meeting and to the officers and staff of the Enforcement team for their work and enthusiasm. Particular appreciation was expressed to David Mann and Mark Turner for their individual contribution.

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING (available on Group website) accepted as read. [>>]
GERRY WYLD (Head of Planning and Strategic Policy, Slough B. C.) formally welcomed everyone to the meeting and spoke of the important part the Enforcement has to play within the overall planning process, a system highly dependent upon recipients of permissions abiding by conditions and limitations. He acknowledged that the public and Councillors alike are becoming increasingly aware of the professionalism shown by Enforcement practitioners. Gerry felt it was important for Planning Authorities, where ever possible, to adopt a proactive approach. With this in mind, he paid tribute to the Enforcement team at Slough B. C. Gerry then praised the work and initiative of 'self help' organisations, such as S.E.O.G., in providing a facility for members to both improve their technical knowledge and, by net-working, increase expertise and efficiency. Gerry wished the audience an interesting and productive day.

DAVID SCOURFIELD (Head of Development Control,) also wished to welcome the Group to Slough and spoke of the importance to the Enforcement function of support from Elected Members. David informed the audience that as a direct result of 'The Best Value Review' the need for an additional Enforcement officer had been identified. This in turn had lead to the appointment of an officer dedicated to dealing with traveller/gypsy related matters. David wish to thank his Councillors for their backing as a result of which the environment of local residents had significantly improved. David however recognised that there still remain Enforcement teams throughout the UK who fail to receive such member support and, as a consequence, are trying to deal with ever increasing and complex work loads whilst remaining under resourced. David informed the audience of his belief that an exchange of work between Planning and Enforcement officers should take place. David further stated that this practice has in his opinion been successfully employed at Slough B. C. resulting in both improved efficiency and lessening the belief that the Enforcement function is only a 'bolt on' to the planning system.

David then gave a brief description of Slough as a working town and emphasised that planning and enforcement should be about serving the people. He ran through the agenda for the day and thanked Jim Lynn and the enforcement team for arranging the meeting .
10:40

LINDA RUSSELL (Consultant Planning Solicitor)- Untidy Land vs Material Change of Use.

Linda Russell gave a presentation dealing with the different approaches in dealing with unsightly/untidy land in terms of either an adverse impact upon amenity or as a possible material change of use i.e. storage of waste material. She set out the difficulties, which may be encountered in regard to interpretation of the relevant statutes and action to be taken. Linda detailed the requirements of Section 215 of The Town & Country Planning Act, 1990 (untidy land) and referred briefly to the ability of Planning Authorities to invoke direct action powers of Section 217. At the conclusion of her presentation Linda responded to comment concerning the proposed introduction of 'Temporary Stop Notices'. (Consultation response period on this proposal concludes on 26 January 2005)

Members of the audience discussed the issues relating to untidy land, including the responsibility for the removal of waste material, including instances involving land used by travellers/gypsies.

Notes of Linda's presentation are attached to the Minutes.

11:30
PETER LOWE ( Three Rivers D. C. ) spoke about the required procedure for obtaining the detail of telephone subscribers, for example finding out the identity of a subscriber from the telephone number shown on a 'fly poster'. Peter explained that, in accordance with the requirements of The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000 ( R.I.P.A.) there is need for officers to be appointed as 'a single point of contact' ( SPOC). Officers are therefore recommended to contact the Home Office in order to be enrolled onto a two-(2) day accreditation course. Following the successful completion of a written examination a unique reference number will be issued which will enable requests for subscriber details to be applied for. An information document was supplied to all attendees.

For further details members are asked to speak to their individual legal departments or, if necessary, contact Peter Lowe direct on 01923-776611.
11:40
REFESHMENTS
12:00

STEPHEN JOB ( Planning Consultant and Deputy Planning 13.0 Inspector ) - Enforcement Policies- do they serve a purpose?

STEPHEN JOB gave a presentation relating to the publication/use of an Enforcement Policy, detailing his perception of both the advantages and disadvantages to Planning Authorities of issuing such a guidance document. He explored the question of whether or not to publish a general or definitive policy or some form of hybrid. Stephen detailed what he thought should be included within the document and where/how it should be made available to the public. He commented that there was not much in the way of Government guidance on the subject but recommended members to take note of the Department of Trade and Industry - Small Business Service Enforcement Concordat - 2003

Notes of Stephen's presentation are attached to the Minutes.

12:35

BOB MOON (Co-Chair of SEOG) informed the audience that the R.T.P.I. were in the process of sending out a letter and questionnaire address to both Chief Planners and Enforcement officers throughout England and Wales. The documents relate to a proposal to create a National Association of Enforcement Officers. Should anyone not have received the referred to papers by no later than the 3 December, then please contact Bob via the S.E.O.G. web site. Bob briefly outlined the aims of the proposed association and encouraged S.E.O.G. members to give their support to this initiative. Bob was unable to speculate as to when an association would become operational or on the level of membership fee required - both matters were dependent upon the level of positive response. However, Bob made clear his believe that a properly constituted association would provide benefits to Enforcement and planning officers alike.

JIM LYNN then took the opportunity to make a plea for volunteer(s) to take an active role in the running of S.E.O.G. Jim explained that both he and Bob Moon may not be in a position to continue in their role as Co-Chair and therefore urged members to consider offering their services to thereby ensure the continuance of the group.

12:45
LUNCH
14:00
DAVID WHIPPS ( Consultant Planning Solicitor ) Listed Buildings - an asset or a liability

DAVID WHIPPS outlined the responsibilities placed upon both companies and private individuals by owning a Listed Building. He stated that a lot of unauthorised changes are made to such buildings undertaken by owner(s) who, whilst wishing to use/reside in a unique property, desire the benefits derived from modernising the property. David felt that solicitors needed to fully explain to prospective purchasers the many legislative controls relating to listed buildings and hence, the significant consequences of carrying out unauthorised works.

David's presentation notes, together with his CV are attached to the Minutes.
15:00
REFRESHMENTS
15:20
TAN IKRAM (Barrister-at Law & Junior Judge - Inner London Circuit ) - 'Evidence from all angles'.

TAN IKRAM gave a talk on Enforcement action and the implications of subsequent prosecution. He emphasised the need for gathering evidence and the making detailed notes. All documents gathered by the Local Authority in the course of an investigation are admissible as evidence and may be used in court proceedings. Tan also discussed the law of hearsay, which extends to the production of written material.

Tan's presentation was highly informative and extremely entertaining in both its content and manner of delivery. The appreciation of all that present was shown by enthusiastic and spontaneous applause.

Tan's notes are annexed to the Minutes.
16:15
CLOSE OF MEETING

JIM LYNN thanked the speakers who had kindly given up their time and to everyone for attending the meeting. Jim urged members to consider volunteering to help the group. Should anyone be able to offer their services, they should contact Jim Lynn or Bob Moon.

NEXT MEETING FRIDAY 11TH MARCH 2005 - VENUE: METROPOLITAN POLICE HQ, BUSHY - SPONSORED BY METROPOLITAN POLICE.

Speakers materials made available to SEOG Members
Windsor - York Club
- 26 Nov 04
Speaker Subject
Slides
Handouts
Linda Russell
(Consultant Planning Solicitor)

- Untidy Land vs Material Change of Use.

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Stephen Job
(Planning Consultant and Deputy Planning Inspector)
- Enforcement Policies- do they serve a purpose?
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David Whipps
(Consultant Planning Solicitor)

- Listed Buildings - an asset or a liability?

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Tan Ikram
(Barrister-at Law & Junior Judge - Inner London Circuit)
- 'Evidence from all angles'.
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